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September 2 - September 8
- During those first months in America Shree Maa said very little in English. I was Her translator, and most frequently She spoke to me in our own personal mixture of languages which I would strive to interpret into English. One day She stood in front of an altar of Goddess Kali and in extremely clear English said to the Goddess, "All right, are you going to speak or not?" We were all amazed to hear Her utterance and even more impressed when She turned around and began to speak English so sweetly and clearly that there was no further use of a translator.
– from Shree Maa: The Life of a Saint
- Shree Maa: I am always happy. When you live with divinity, you are always happy. It makes me even happier when my children are happy.
– from Before Becoming This
- The difference between a disciple and a devotee is that the devotee comes to sit at the feet of the Guru but doesn't change his life. But the disciple takes the wisdom of the Guru and changes his life striving to become a mirror image of the Guru.
– from Gems of Wisdom
- Ramakrishna: Protect the Divine Mother in your heart. May you see Her as I see Her and nobody else. You take away all my desires and my anger and my passion.
– from Ramakrishna: The Nectar of Eternal Bliss
- Ramakrishna: Give me the eyes of wisdom as protectors so that I am always protected and always be careful not to accede to bad desires and bad thoughts.
– from Ramakrishna: The Nectar of Eternal Bliss
- Currently, I like to translate dharma as the ideal of perfection, because every atom of existence has its own ideal of perfection towards which it is striving. Every individual soul is destined to manifest its own ideal of perfection. Dharma is its individual path and every individual has its own.
– from Shree Maa: The Guru and The Goddess
- Swamiji is so down to earth and unpretentious that he won't let himself get stuck in a "holy man" role. In fact, he is constantly breaking the rules about how an enlightened teacher should act. In the Tibetan tradition this is called "crazy wisdom", a quality many great masters possess.
– from Sahib Sadhu: The White Sadhu
September 9 - September 15
- Shree Maa told us that we must work on ourselves that the desire to "fix things" or help people is part of our attachment to the idea that we have the answers and the solutions our ego.
– from Shree Maa: The Life of a Saint
- Shree Maa: If you want peace, see no fault in anyone. Find all mistakes within yourself.
– from Shree Maa: The Life of a Saint
- Shree Maa: If you call on God in a true and simple manner, you will know that all you are doing is divine work.
– from Shree Maa: The Life of a Saint
- Whatever promotes the health and happiness of those around us can be seen as divine work.
– from Shree Maa: The Life of a Saint
- Just doing our best each moment, and completing our tasks so that we don't leave a mess or problem for someone else to deal with, is the way to live each day fully.
– from Shree Maa: The Life of a Saint
- Regular practice is important for the growth of our spiritual lives - there are no short cuts.
– from Shree Maa: The Life of a Saint
- Maa's way is to live in complete simplicity. Her whole life is statement that the important elements of life are the spiritual ones.
– from Shree Maa: The Life of a Saint
September 16 - September 22
- One of Swamiji's main teachings is that Mother Nature is constantly changing, as is her nature. Change She will and change She must. When we identify with the changes we suffer. When we desperately try to hold on and keep the changes from happening we feel pain. Only when we learn to watch those changes with equilibrium, with the feeling in our hearts and minds that this is the nature of existence, only then do we begin to free ourselves from actions and reactions, which merely prolong the pain of attachment and sow more seeds of the same.
– from Sahib Sadhu: The White Sadhu
- Shree Maa: Nowadays, there is no one doing intensive sadhana like Swamiji did so many years ago in India. One of the reasons Swamiji has come to this country is to show how to do sadhana, how to pull ourselves out of the muck of materialism and confusion.
– from Sahib Sadhu: The White Sadhu
- Swamiji does not teach one spiritual technique to incorporate into life, but rather, like Shree Maa lives a deeply spiritual way of life, and teaches through his example. His concept of spiritual life is one in which we give more than we take and add value to others peoples lives.
– from Sahib Sadhu: The White Sadhu
- Each moment is a festival. Each breath we take is a cause to celebrate. Each breath we take is another chance to remember God.
– from Sahib Sadhu: The White Sadhu
- Swamiji is an open channel for receiving divine grace. Whoever is fortunate enough to be open to the divine flow will undoubtedly receive it. It remains up to us to direct the gift toward changing our own lives and sharing our love with all people we meet.
– from Sahib Sadhu: The White Sadhu
- When you worship any of the deities, you are worshipping all the other deities.
– from Before Becoming This
- Spiritual practices are valuable, because they remind us to live a spiritual life.
– from Before Becoming This
September 23 – September 29
- Worship is the bridge by which we bridge duality and non duality.
– from Gems of Wisdom
- Shree Maa: It is very difficult to understand in your head. Therefore, we always say in our country to live in your heart. If you want to change your life, you can do it very quickly with your heart.
– from Before Becoming This
- Shree Maa: Of all the planets with human life, this planet has the most duality. Therefore, if you perform spiritual practices, you won't come back for a long time. Now you are thinking, "Oh, this is pleasure and pain, it's nice." But when you leave your body, you'll feel free and you'll say, "I'm going home!" If you perform good karma here, you will go to a beautiful place and you will not want to come back. But when it's time to come back and teach people, you will.
– from Before Becoming This
- Maa says, "If we are gentle, loving, kind and honest in our dealings, that is spiritual." She teaches that true spirituality does not come wrapped in exotic packages, but in the fabric of everyday deeds and ordinary actions.
– from Shree Maa: The Life of a Saint
- Practice discrimination. Ask yourself which desires will bring you closer to God and which ones will take you further away from your goal.
– from Gems of Wisdom
- Our teachers are always carrying out their idea of enabling every home to be a place of worship. They show us that it is possible to know God directly through worship, meditation, study of sacred texts, and through serving others.
– from Shree Maa: The Life of a Saint
- There is no one who is not on the path. Every individual soul is progressing in accordance with its own dharma. We have no right to be judgmental about others, even if it appears they lack harmony and balance.
– from Shree Maa: The Guru and the Goddess
September 30 - October 6
- A human being is one who can control his mind.
– from Gems of Wisdom
- Please decipher and weigh the ultimate principles of all existence. Sort through the ultimate principles of all the ideals of creation. In order to realize the ultimate ideals of existence, life should be dedicated to spiritual discipline.
– from Gems of Wisdom
- Real human life is devoted completely to spiritual evolution. In order to devote ourselves to the realization of these ultimate ideals we need to cultivate some attitudes like peacefulness. Peacefulness in your nature is the foremost amongst energies. Cultivate peace. You, yourself, will understand if your actions bring peace, or are actually leading you in another direction.
– from Gems of Wisdom
- Cultivate wisdom. In order to know God, it is most efficient to study the Sanskrit language. In the Sanskrit language there is an illumination of the wisdom of the soul. From the study of Sanskrit certain attitudes arise and become illuminated. The attitude of wisdom in all ideals of perfection are One. These vibrations become apparent in the study of Sanskrit.
– from Gems of Wisdom
- When you realize wisdom, then you will illuminate truth, consciousness, and bliss, within which, there exists no distinction of individual attributes. Especially among paths or ideals of perfection, no discrimination exists.
– from Gems of Wisdom
- Always strive to maintain a relationship with the attitude of Truth. When we remain steadfast in the attitude of the ideal of perfection, then our ideal becomes firmly rooted in strength, our ideals become stronger. The sense of satisfaction and contentment reside within. When contentment dwells inside, then outside is characterized by the illumination of light, and we disseminate light in every direction. That illumination is the highest Ideal.
– from Gems of Wisdom
- Strive to contain ego. Maintain the recollection that God within you is performing all action. Remember who you are. Who am I? I am nobody. Remembering Truth is meditation. In what ever circumstance you reside, remember who is residing there, and there will be no concept of gain or loss, difficulty or comfort.
– from Gems of Wisdom
October 7 - October 13
- Devotion and wisdom are not separate paths. If you love (bhakti) something or someone then you strive to learn (gyan) more about this object or person.
– from Gems of Wisdom
- When you look at him, (Swamiji) his skin color and everything is totally dissolved, and you're looking at the personality beyond the caste, creed and color. You see a human being who is what all world leaders and people who are working for world peace want to be. He's not the physical self, he's that one universal personality common to the whole world.
– from Sahib Sadhu: The White Sadhu
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At the same point in his puja every day, and at a different time of day while his eyes were closed and he was performing meditaion and doing japa (reciting the mantra of the deity), a man dressed in orange clothes with an orange turban wrapped on his head went up to Swamiji and put a mala (garland of flowers) around his neck and smeared his forehead with ashes. I witnessed this daily for nine consecutive days. On the last day, Swamiji started his puja while the doors were still locked. And yet, even with the doors bolted shut, the same man still came and placed a garland around Swamiji's neck and smeared his forehead with ashes.
After we left the temple and headed back to our rooms that last morning, Shree Maa turned to us and said, "Did you see that man who put ashes on Swamiji's forehead and put a mala around his neck?"
"Yes,” we replied.
"That man was Shiva."
– from Sahib Sadhu: The White Sadhu
- The subtle body contains the samskaras, the tendencies that formulate your next birth. It attaches itself to the causal body.
– from Before Becoming This
- We have three levels of consciousness: the gross body the subtle body, and the causal body. The subtle body is called the mind, the world of thoughts, ideas and dreams. The causal body knows the totality, and that allows enlightenment. When the causal body merges into the universal, you become one with God. You become a jivanmukta, liberated while in the body.
– from Before Becoming This
- Everyone is divine and an avatar of the Supreme Divinity. We just have to wake up to our divine nature.
– from Gems of Wisdom
- She (Shree Maa) shared her nightly routine of feeling herself cradled in the lap of Vishnu, He who sustains and preserves all. On a wakening in the morning, she instructed us, that we were to bow to ourselves in the mirror, while acknowledging the divine energy that resides in each of us, and ask the Goddess to make our eyes her eyes, our hands her hands, and our feet her feet throughout the day.
– from Shree Maa: The Life of a Saint
October 14 - October 20
- If you raise someone up you yourself find progress. We are not climbing a ladder of success or pulling people down to reach our goal. We are networking and helping each other.
– from Gems of Wisdom
- Maa explains that as the mind becomes more absorbed in mantras and one pointed that the world naturally leaves you. You do not renounce the world, the world renounces you. Old patterns knock on your door and you are not home because your mind is currently focused on God.
– from Shree Maa: The Life of a Saint
- When we take birth, we come into this body with its five elements. The body is not eternal. There are five organs and five senses. When we take this body on earth, our actions are different. We forget ourselves when we live in the maya, this duality. Then a certain time comes to wake up.
– from Before Becoming This
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Question: Does the Guru have a responsibility to her/his disciple.
Answer: Of Course. If the Guru gives a disciple initiation, it is a big responsibility. You have to take care of the disciple for many lifetimes.
– from Before Becoming This
- Hinduism says, "Yes, every object of manifested existence is divine. It can reflect divinity to anyone who wishes to perceive it. So worship God in any form you choose to see as divine." The point is to worship, practice, meditate, contemplate and remember that there is a divine power which is superior to us.
– from Before Becoming This
- You become the person your are striving to become. You can see the progress. You can watch yourself and begin to like yourself a little bit more each time you cut a bond. You feel a little bit more independence, a greater freedom every time you put aside one of those bonds of attachment.
– from Shree Maa: The Guru and the Goddess
- We are endowed with maintaining the ancient traditions by acting as an example to the next generation. We should start by increasing our recovery rate. Let's first start by cultivating enough resistance so when we fall down we pop right back up again. We are moving towards the ultimate goal of being so rooted in faith, that no one can ever shake our roots.
– from Shree Maa: The Guru and the Goddess
October 21 - October 27
- Every being manifested, and every moment that comes to birth, comes to birth because of unfinished business. There is some reason that it comes into manifestation, and the arrows we have shot will land. When the stimulus does come, do we act reflexively, or do we control ourselves and design a response that will bring us closer to what we want in the furtherance of our goals.
– from Shree Maa: The Guru and the Goddess
- There are many techniques to get more control over yourself. If you can identify the emotion, you can repeat the bija mantra that corresponds to the emotion. In this way you get control of the emotion. Then you can recite the mantra of the attitude that you want to replace the emotion with.
– from Shree Maa: The Guru and the Goddess
- If we act with attachment in duality, then we can only produce egotistical or attached behavior. If we surrender that action, free from attachment, we can aspire to live with the laws of universal dharma.
– from Shree Maa: The Guru and the Goddess
- Maa says that from your devotion wisdom will be illuminated.
– from Shree Maa: The Guru and the Goddess
- Make peace. The eternal religion is pure love, pure truth. We cannot have world peace without individual peace. Faith in wisdom and God bring the highest peace.
– from Gems of Wisdom
- Ramakrishna: As long as I remain a devotee and this apprehension of "I" remains, my identification as a devotee remains. At that time I have a belief that God is a perceivable entity and that I can have a relationship with Her. But if you allow worldly ideas to intrude, then this attitude of "I am a devotee" disappears. Then you believe "I am an actor" instead of "I am a devotee."
– from Ramakrishna: The Nectar of Eternal Bliss
October 28 - November 3
- In the Puranas it is written that Hanuman was such a strong devotee that for his benefit God assumed the form Rama.
– from Ramakrishna: The Nectar of Eternal Bliss
- Chanting and studying the scriptures leads us to our divine selves and motivates us to give up our selfishness.
– from Gems of Wisdom
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Question: How do you feel about debt?
Answer: We are seeking freedom. When you incur debt, what you are saying is, "I am going enjoy today and pay tomorrow." So you are obligating your self tomorrow for today's pleasure. We would say that's not a good idea from a spiritual point of view. If you encumber yourself for tomorrow, then you won't be free today. You have obligated yourself to spend time working in the marketplace in order to pay for yesterday’s enjoyments. You are borrowing karma.
– from Before Becoming This
- Question: Does debt affect your mediation?
Answer: Absolutely. You have to go work to do what you don't want to do to pay off what you enjoyed yesterday.
– from Before Becoming This
- Inquiry: But even if we didn't have debt, we'd still have to go to work to pay for lodging and food.
Response: Not necessarily. You might create a different standard of life and spend less time working. Then you would work for God instead, and whatever you need will come to you.
– from Before Becoming This
- When the contemplations rise to the throat, the vishudhi chakra, all ignorance and all foolishness are renounced in favor of listening to the Eternal Truth of God and Words of Wisdom.
– from Ramakrishna: The Nectar of Eternal Bliss
- The sixth residence (of consciousness) is the Ajna chakra in the forehead. If your awareness goes there, you have Eternal Vision of the Supreme Divinity. Still a little "I" remains.
– from Ramakrishna: The Nectar of Eternal Bliss
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srini_sadhu: Om Sang Saraswatyai Namaha!
srini_sadhu: Sutra 5 is about Dharma
srini_sadhu: It raises some interesting questions
srini_sadhu: Actually very important questions
srini_sadhu: First the Sutra
srini_sadhu: Srstidharmena jivayatra
srini_sadhu: Srsti is creation
srini_sadhu: Dharmena is “by means of Dharmaâ€
srini_sadhu: Jiva means the individual soul
srini_sadhu: Yatra is pilgrimage or journey
srini_sadhu: There are two interpretations of this Sutra
srini_sadhu: First one says
srini_sadhu: This creation is a collection of individual souls who are making their personal pilgrimages by means of Dharma
srini_sadhu: Second says
srini_sadhu: Dharma comes about in creation when every individual strives in its pilgrimage towards perfection.
srini_sadhu: First, what do we mean by Dharma?
forall10q: ideal of perfection
srini_sadhu: Jai Maa!
Debi GLSDM: Dharma? What our purpose is in being here. To fulfill karma
srini_sadhu: Till I met Maa and Swamiji, I took it to mean Morally Righteous Conduct
vish108weshwar: right action in accord with all laws of nature?
srini_sadhu: This word has so many meanings
Debi GLSDM: so right action is to follow our dharma
srini_sadhu: It could also mean Harmony in the Universe
srini_sadhu: So how do we find out about our Dharma?
Janitri Rybacki: wouldn't it be exactly where each one of us is in our life right now?....our dharma is our "job"/duty to God.
Debi GLSDM: By following what we are driven to do intuitively from childhood perhaps
srini_sadhu: Dear janitri, how do we know we are in the right place
Janitri Rybacki: oh...well, acceptance and surrender to where we are...and a knowingness when the place also isn't right. Maa is like the Mother Cat that picks us up in her mouth and takes us from place to place, where we need to be.
srini_sadhu: Would you think of Dharma of a vision of our future?
srini_sadhu: as a vision of our future?
Janitri Rybacki: yes
Debi GLSDM: Yea
vish108weshwar: i do not understand
srini_sadhu: Dear Vish, I am thinking of it as what is the right thing I should be doing now and in the future? How should I be using my mind, hands, and legs to serve the world
vish108weshwar: do you mean the "ideal of perfection" that we carry in our hearts? the goal we strive for?
vish108weshwar: i see and i agree
srini_sadhu: Yes that too
srini_sadhu: When I ask myself this question, I feel a mental block. How can I transcend this?
Debi GLSDM: What have you always wanted to do? What do you dream about being. & then turn it into service
vish108weshwar: so our previous sutras on discrimination play a big part in this striving
srini_sadhu: How so Vish?
Janitri Rybacki: i like the idea of turning it into service.
vish108weshwar: if i have a goal, i have to work towards it. if another goal pops up, i have to analyze it so see if it takes me towards or away from my main goal
vish108weshwar: the idea of turning into service is the best. instead of making it a task or hassle
vish108weshwar: although sometimes, no matter how i state it, the moment requires tremendous effort to succeed
srini_sadhu: One interpretation of this Sutra is that everyone should find their Dharma and strive for this ideal
srini_sadhu: Namaste Usha!
srini_sadhu: We are discussing Dharma
Debi GLSDM: If it is something you love and are so good at that you study it or do it with devotion then it is not work you want to do it.
srini_sadhu: The other interpretation is everybody is doing their Dharma and we should accept that
srini_sadhu: That's nice Debi
vish108weshwar: how do i accept if someone is making a problem for me?
Janitri Rybacki: Vish, i often look at it as their role to play and also my karma to be a witness to the role that the other is playing. it's not always so easy though....
srini_sadhu: Witness Bhava!
vish108weshwar: so being a witness is the answer? Not taking it personally?
Janitri Rybacki: the witness doesn't have the ego taking it personally. The ego wants to take it personally.
srini_sadhu: How do we cultivate the attitude of witness?
vish108weshwar: according to the story in the sutra, The King's Cut Finger, everything has a purpose and one should not be attached? Who agrees?
Debi GLSDM: me
Janitri Rybacki: haven't read the story of the King's Cut Finger
vish108weshwar: janitri-i agree with you. how to cultivate this attitude because it is not a mood we can make?
srini_sadhu: Being unattached seems a bit cold to me
srini_sadhu: I prefer to think of it as being cheerful and calm under all circumstances
vish108weshwar: if it is a mood, it would be cold. i agree
vish108weshwar: how do we attain that state?
Debi GLSDM: By realizing that everything has a purpose
srini_sadhu: I think it will helpful to study the lives of all those who attained that state
vish108weshwar: yes, but that is still a mood, or so i feel
Debi GLSDM: Good idea Srini
vish108weshwar: study helps the intellect, but if someone is angry, my mood of cheerfulness goes quickly
Usha Haywood: perfect love and compassion can only be unattached because it is in the state of oneness - what is there to be attached to ?oneness
srini_sadhu: If I can keep the image of my beloved in front of me all the time, thinks work out more smoothly
vish108weshwar: so it is a state of being, not a mood we make
Debi GLSDM: So are you saying see the beloved in them
Janitri Rybacki: to me, when someone is angry at me, it often is that they need energy from me, or a response from me regarding their anger. if the response from me is negative to their negativity, the cycle continues. if it is cheerful and positive, Maa is there.
Janitri Rybacki: Srini, do you picture the image of your beloved in your mind's eye?
vish108weshwar: Maa says: do sadhana, pray, do homa, puja, get into a relationship with the Divine, be more aware of the Divine, as a result of your spiritual practices, than you are of the ego. Make friends with Divinity in your heart and mind.
srini_sadhu: Everywhere and everyone, Debi, as much as possible. I tried it once, but find it hard to sustain
srini_sadhu: Yes Janitri
srini_sadhu: That's nice Vish
Debi GLSDM: Yes it sound good but doing can be difficult
vish108weshwar: yes janitri
Janitri Rybacki: thank U
Debi GLSDM: Maybe that is where our practicing comes in for us with all this we keep trying to do it correctly What ever that is at that time
Debi GLSDM: Don't give up (striving)
vish108weshwar: In the Gita, Lord Krishna says: Be established in Being, then perform action. Then you will not be attached to the fruits of action. Remember the earlier sutras about the arrows?
Debi GLSDM: Yes
Debi GLSDM: good
srini_sadhu: So things to think about, (a) What is our Dharma? and (b) How can we be non--judgmental of our friends and co-workers
srini_sadhu: Is there some other things that we can discuss under Dharma?
Usha Haywood: duty
vish108weshwar: question from page 44, when we become one with God, all join in the realization of divinity. what does that mean?
srini_sadhu: Good one, Usha!
srini_sadhu: Vish, page # does not sound right
Usha Haywood: no more separation
vish108weshwar: it is the bottom of page 44 in my book. i think i have the older book oops
vish108weshwar: the quote is taken right before the story about the king begins
srini_sadhu: One Swamiji said that if one being realized God, seven generations before and after get blessed.
vish108weshwar: the quote reads: Ultimately, when we become one with God, we become one with all dharma. All join in the realization of our Divinity.
Debi GLSDM: yes
vish108weshwar: maybe it also means that all creation, since it is one, is blessed when one soul becomes realized with
srini_sadhu: Dear usha, we were discussing Dharma, dharma being our purpose in life. WE could also think of it as all our duties.
Debi GLSDM: Like caring for family, work etc
srini_sadhu: Personal, Family, and Professional
Debi GLSDM: Like Usha said Duty?
Usha Haywood: and universal
srini_sadhu: Yes, Debi
srini_sadhu: Vish, related to what you were saying, some one told me when we receive something from a realized soul, it as if the entire creation is coming together to give you that thing.
Usha Haywood: everything is linked to everything else
vish108weshwar: that is great. i feel that when Maa blesses me
srini_sadhu: Could we discuss Sutra # 6
srini_sadhu: ??
vish108weshwar: yes
Janitri Rybacki: yes
Debi GLSDM: ok
srini_sadhu: Karen?
forall10q: y
Usha Haywood: please
srini_sadhu: This Sutra is about Intuitive Cognition and Samadhi
srini_sadhu: I will just write the English
srini_sadhu: It says" The Highest attainment of a soul is "intuitive illumination".
Usha Haywood: Turiya
srini_sadhu: Kashyapa Muni gives us a concrete goal to strive for.
srini_sadhu: There are three modes of perception
srini_sadhu: Pratyaksha means perceiving through the senses
srini_sadhu: Example, we smell a flower
srini_sadhu: Pratyaya means conceiving in the mind
srini_sadhu: Example, we close our eyes and visualize the flower
srini_sadhu: Prakasha, means going beyond the mind and have an intuitive experience
srini_sadhu: We probably can't describe this experience, but we can discuss the path to get to it?
srini_sadhu: How do we know that we are using intuition?
vish108weshwar: does this mean that the whole reason we are on earth, in a body, is to have this experience? this is our dharma?
srini_sadhu: Good question Vish. What do you all think?
vish108weshwar: dharma = highest goal of existence
vish108weshwar: dharma=highest ideal of perfection
Janitri Rybacki: it's our duty to be here on this Earth...sweet and relieving to see life this way.
vish108weshwar: jan-yes
srini_sadhu: Thank you Janitri!
Usha Haywood: there is a "taste†a particular "felt sense" that can only be experienced
vish108weshwar: how do others fell about this?
Usha Haywood: sorry i mean felt
srini_sadhu: When you look at the life of every saint, there is a period in their lives where they drop everything and go into solitude to attain to this state
Usha Haywood: one intuits the beingness of something - a sense of wholeness
Debi GLSDM: Can you say what Samadhi means?
vish108weshwar: we have gravitated and been pulled to Maa for this very reason
srini_sadhu: It is perfect union with Your beloved
Debi GLSDM: yes
Debi GLSDM: thanks
srini_sadhu: I and You become one
vish108weshwar: ah, that is what i want.
srini_sadhu: I was asking Swamiji a question about samadhi a few months ago
Usha Haywood: need to die to be reborn
srini_sadhu: He talks about type of Samadhi called Salokya
srini_sadhu: You and your beloved are in the same physical or metaphysical loka or plane
srini_sadhu: I said, Swamiji, you and I are in the same room, are we not in salokya samadhi
Debi GLSDM: I remember reading about dif kinds
Janitri Rybacki: Srini, what was Swamiji's response?
srini_sadhu: He said we are the same room, but my mind is seeing other objects and my mind is wandering
Debi GLSDM: yes thank you
srini_sadhu: So in samadhi there is an intensity of absorption where the only thing that exists is you, your beloved and the feeling of love
Debi GLSDM: ok
srini_sadhu: Later, he added, when you come out of samadhi, you see the world differently, with illumination
Debi GLSDM: There is a lot to digest in this Sutra
Debi GLSDM: very good
srini_sadhu: What can we do everyday to make progress to this intuitive state?
Usha Haywood: meditate
srini_sadhu: Thank you Usha!
vish108weshwar: how would performing seva help us reach that state?
Usha Haywood: if we eat something for instance - try to remember its nature for instance the apple - tree- earth water etc.
vish108weshwar: usha-good, how would seva help us?
Usha Haywood: develop a felt sense for the beingness of everything we encounter
vish108weshwar: when we perform seva, how should we feel? What should be our focus?
Usha Haywood: seva fosters a sense of love - connection - wholeness
Debi GLSDM: realizing we are all part of each other so to serve them is to serve God
vish108weshwar: debi-good,
vish108weshwar: usha-good
srini_sadhu: If we put a feeling of love into our seva, then we sit for meditation that feeling may linger
Debi GLSDM: mmm ok
Janitri Rybacki: living love!
vish108weshwar: if my mind is active during seva, the ego is still engaged. how to settled the mind during seva so the ego loses hold?
Usha Haywood: or vice versa
srini_sadhu: If throughout the day are mind is jumping around, when we sit for meditation our mind will jump around, poor thing
Usha Haywood: MANTRA
srini_sadhu: From time to time check, am I in the heart when I am doing my work
vish108weshwar: poor thing, i want it to stop so i can have union with Maa. But there must be some process to use during seva, since that is where we spend most of our time-in activity?
Debi GLSDM: Where did i read about meditation? Meditate in confusion get confusion
Usha Haywood: always practice sensation - i.e. feet on the ground
Janitri Rybacki: Srini, question: feeling this in the heart?
vish108weshwar: i have same question
Debi GLSDM: Meditate in love brings love
BharatiMa: No, thank you.
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srini_sadhu: Feelings are deep, enduring; thought are shallow and transient
Usha Haywood: feeling is in heart sensation can be anywhere
srini_sadhu: If my mind is racing or stressed I know I am not in my heart
Janitri Rybacki: thank U
vish108weshwar: even deeper srini, is pure consciousness, bliss, absorption. Once we experience that, then when we perform seva, automatically we are in our hearts, the ego is less attached, and God is more in control
srini_sadhu: This is a good question to ask people on the club and Swamiji
srini_sadhu: How to feel love when we do our work?
Debi GLSDM: Good
srini_sadhu: Like Usha said, Mantra is a good thing to keep us balanced
vish108weshwar: so, for this week, can we "watch" our activity and note the times we are in "love" during activity, and how we got there? And how we can maintain that?
Debi GLSDM: Would it help to do our work as we are doing it for God
vish108weshwar: debi-yes
srini_sadhu: Also when we close our eyes for meditation we can se how the feelings during the day carried over into our meditation
vish108weshwar: srini-yes
Debi GLSDM: ok
srini_sadhu: I am happy I was chatting with you all for one hour
vish108weshwar: seems like only a moment
srini_sadhu: I pray for our continued friendship and pure love
vish108weshwar: that means to me it was very joyful and in bhava samadhi
Usha Haywood: sorry we were late took a while to adjust
srini_sadhu: I also pray that we all achieve our Dharma whatever it may be!!
vish108weshwar: thanks for your love and care for us all
Janitri Rybacki: thank you dear friends in Maa...
srini_sadhu: No problem Usha!
Debi GLSDM: Thank you discussion
vish108weshwar: janitri
srini_sadhu: Please share your thoughts on Dharma, Samadhi, Working with love on the club!!
vish108weshwar: all of you, thanks for coming. it is too short
forall10q: Good night everyone. Thank you!
vish108weshwar: jai maa, jai swami
Janitri Rybacki: God Night!
vish108weshwar: janitri i like that god night
Janitri Rybacki: thanks...got it from a friend!
vish108weshwar: can i borrow it?
srini_sadhu: There are no coincidences only God-incidences
Janitri Rybacki: this friend did it at the end of a chat also...YES!
vish108weshwar: thanks, like your too srini
Janitri Rybacki: God-incidences! Oh, pure-fect!
vish108weshwar: so wonderful
Usha Haywood: Namah Shivaya!
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srini_sadhu: Om Sang Saraswatyai Namaha!
BharatiMa: Kali welcome my good friend
srini_sadhu: Let us begin our discussion
kaliananda_saraswati: Jai Maa, nice to see you all
srini_sadhu: Today our topics for discussion are Dharma and Samadhi
srini_sadhu: Under Dharma, we could discuss what is Dharma, what is our Dharma, how do we find out our Dharma
srini_sadhu: How does that sound?
Debi GLSDM: great
Cynkay Morningsong: great
BharatiMa: jaimaa
henny_v_i: ok
kaliananda_saraswati: good
srini_sadhu: Are there other things that all of you would like to discuss under Dharma
vish108weshwar: good
srini_sadhu: As we do this please think of questions on Dharma that we can take to Swamiji
BharatiMa: How do we respect others dharma with no judgment
Debi GLSDM: good question especially us with families
vish108weshwar: how do we raise children?
srini_sadhu: Under Samadhi we will discuss the different ways of perceiving the world, types of samadhi
srini_sadhu: Thanks Vish - sure - if others are interested in this topic
Debi GLSDM: yes
BharatiMa: welcome tara
Tara Boyce: Namaste Srini and everyone
srini_sadhu: Jai Maa Tara!
henny_v_i: namaste Tara
Cynkay Morningsong: namaste
vish108weshwar: namaste
srini_sadhu: OK, we will write a few things from the text to set the stage and then open for discussion
srini_sadhu: We would love to hear form you all! (Francesca too!)
srini_sadhu: Sutra # 5
srini_sadhu: Srstidharmena jivayatra
srini_sadhu: Srsti is creation
srini_sadhu: Dharmena is “by means of Dharmaâ€
srini_sadhu: Jiva means the individual soul
srini_sadhu: Yatra is pilgrimage or journey
srini_sadhu: There are two interpretations of this.
srini_sadhu: This creation is a collection of individual souls who are making their personal pilgrimages by means of Dharma
srini_sadhu: The alternative interpretation is
srini_sadhu: Dharma comes about in creation when every individual strives in its pilgrimage towards perfection.
srini_sadhu: So one attitude is: everyone is doing their Dharma
srini_sadhu: The other attitude is: Let us all strive to do our Dharma
BharatiMa: even those who are not doing nice actions?
Ramya: Bharatima, i am also wondering - what is "dharma" and what is "nice"? can we discuss this, everybody?
Tara Boyce: yes
Ramya: i know you are nice -- very nice, Bharatima!
srini_sadhu: How do you all understand the word "Dharma"
BharatiMa: but others act in mean or angry ways
kaliananda_saraswati: a kind of destiny?
Debi GLSDM: is it doing what we came here to do
Ramya: is all action Dharma?
Tara Boyce: doing one's true duty
BharatiMa: srini-i think of dharma as my path in life
Cynkay Morningsong: I'm also wondering about the idea of striving to do our dharma...is there a "striving" or is it something that we do simply by the nature of being on our jivayatra
henny_v_i: for me, it has to do with a process of growth or evolution. Some types of growth are perhaps not nice in the perception of others.
Debi GLSDM: guess the striving would come in when we are enticed to leave our path of dharma?
BharatiMa: hen-that's where i am confused
srini_sadhu: In the Taittriya Upanishad, there is an injunction, "Dharmam Chara": Do your Dharma
Debi GLSDM: we would strive to stay on the target for our goal
Ramya: Wow!! so much food for thought!
BharatiMa: i say not nice but that seems to be judgmental
srini_sadhu: I grew up with the understanding that Dharma meant moral virtuous conduct
Ramya: Swamiji defines it as "ideal of perfection"
BharatiMa: ram-what does that mean?
Debi GLSDM: what seems not nice to one can be ok to another in some cases
Ramya: It can be our inspiration, our goal, as Debi said (studen617...=Debi)
srini_sadhu: There is a dharma for individuals and Dharma for a group
kaliananda_saraswati: i agree it is difficult to understand that harming or the perception of causing harm or pain to another is someone's dharma
srini_sadhu: When you are alone there is no conflict about Dharma
henny_v_i: Perhaps we can refuse to like the behavior without condemning the one who is the one who behaves. Because someone's goal is limited by his or her understanding.
srini_sadhu: When there is a group, you start wondering about what others should be doing for the group and judgment arises
BharatiMa: hen-good
kaliananda_saraswati: that is easy if you are not the one suffering the hurt or pain Henny
kaliananda_saraswati: still you are true
henny_v_i: perhaps that's the challenge for us
kaliananda_saraswati: i guess so
vish108weshwar: remember, the actions we perform today are a result of prior actions. so what else can a "bad" person do?
BharatiMa: srin-why do you think actions change in a group
Debi GLSDM: example: neighbors are young loud riding 4 wheeler and boom boxing here now. I rule it as neg. but it is teaching me to focus and except
srini_sadhu: In response to Bharati
srini_sadhu: Swamiji told us a proverb about Sadhus
Ramya: What a great attitude, Debi - using each situation to learn and grow beautiful!
srini_sadhu: If there is one Sadhu, there is peace
Debi GLSDM: I think action changes in group because we want to be excepted in some cases
srini_sadhu: If there are two Sadhus, it is comfortable
srini_sadhu: One stays at home and the other goes to the market
srini_sadhu: If there are three sadhus, we have government
srini_sadhu: Three Sadhus: Politics
srini_sadhu: Four Sadhus: there is confusion
BharatiMa: sri-is there confusion due to our egos?
vish108weshwar: so how to have harmony is a group, even when they have like mind and like goals?
Debi GLSDM: respect, acceptance, understanding, love,
Debi GLSDM: patience
srini_sadhu: To everybody, what is the secret for establishing and maintaining Group Dharma
kaliananda_saraswati: Respect
Debi GLSDM: doing one thing at a time and sticking to it and having a good leader
henny_v_i: devotion to the Guru, that is where we all meet
Debi GLSDM: yes
Ramya: Love Thy Neighbor as thyself
srini_sadhu: Like Debi's example, we see some one doing something patently wrong. Do we accept or suggest change
vish108weshwar: Maa says: do not be attached to your actions
BharatiMa: respect others for their dharma/yatra
Tara Boyce: honoring oneself and others
Cynkay Morningsong: maintaining the attitude that our personal perspective is limited and so we need to allow for the wisdom of everyone there to shine through
srini_sadhu: Beautiful - thank you all!
BharatiMa: sri-i don't think few ever really listen to another about their behavior
Debi GLSDM: yes and not stick my nose in unless asked (miss fix-it) shree maa call ego
vish108weshwar: if I see someone doing something wrong, I have to check it out for sometime before i speak up. i first have to accept, then, patiently suggest. but, this is hard, especially with family
Debi GLSDM: mantra before action helps me
srini_sadhu: That's nice Debi
Ramya: So we have our own "ideal" that we strive for and so do others - so we need
srini_sadhu: Good to remember before talking to someone
BharatiMa: sri-maybe if we just watched others behavior and not let it effect us
Cynkay Morningsong: F: how do you determine what is "wrong"
srini_sadhu: Good question!
srini_sadhu: Everyone has different ideals of perfection
vish108weshwar: in the case of a spiritual family, the Master sets the rules.
Ramya: Based on our goals - we can determine what is "wrong" for us.
BharatiMa: ram-yes ONLY wrong for us not for others
henny_v_i: for me, 'wrong' is what hurts others
vish108weshwar: in a biological family, mom and dad set the rules; in a work place the boss sets the rules
srini_sadhu: Ahimsa - very nice!
Ramya: Yes - if we start policing others - we won't have time to fix our "wrongs"
BharatiMa: Vish-we should watch the actions of our guru to see what is correct action
srini_sadhu: What are some concrete things we can do to cultivate a non-judgmental attitude?
srini_sadhu: How to be in witness - bhava?
henny_v_i: not take our own opinions too seriously?
vish108weshwar: learn to be like water
Debi GLSDM: be more secure with ourselves
BharatiMa: hen-can we really let others actions that are hurting others effect us?
Cynkay Morningsong: I like to remember that God is everywhere, even if my limited perspective can't see her in some situation
Tara Boyce: Feel where they may be coming from
Cynkay Morningsong: F: not to be in judgment of ourselves
Ramya: Thanks Morningsong - that really helps me to remember and be happy!
Debi GLSDM: that’s a big one for me too i'm my own worse judge
Debi GLSDM: that’s where insecurity comes in
srini_sadhu: I thought of three things: become really busy with your own dharma, pray to God to teach us acceptance, become absorbed in your beloved to the exclusion of all other thoughts
vish108weshwar: great srini
Ramya: Debi - in Chandi Path there is a thought called "Self-Deprecation" and He troubles me too - the way to get of it, Swamiji said is to pray to Chandi!
vish108weshwar: if we accept everything as God's will
kaliananda_saraswati: yes, very nice srini
srini_sadhu: One more question on Dharma, before we move to Sutra # 6
Ramya: Offer all thoughts to Mother and just love Her and sit in Her lap and play!
Debi GLSDM: thanks ramya
srini_sadhu: Francesca's question
BharatiMa: ram-so if someone is mean to me i could say a chandi mantra instead of hollering at them?
Ramya: Its more fun to say it too, isn't it?
srini_sadhu: How do we find out our Dharma, our ideal of perfection?
Debi GLSDM: and smile and try to understand that they have problems too bharatima
BharatiMa: sometimes i act w/out thinking
Debi GLSDM: don't we all
kaliananda_saraswati: we all do Bharatima
henny_v_i: indeed
srini_sadhu:
vish108weshwar: yes
Ramya: Our ideal of perfection - is it our inspiration - a person or a quality?
BharatiMa: but i will try to think the mantra B4 acting-that way i don't continue creating more debts
Tara Boyce: srini-we know what it is inside
Debi GLSDM: finding dharma for me is a feelings I have always had ex : always desired God
Debi GLSDM: does that make since?
srini_sadhu: Yes Debi!
vish108weshwar: in my heart this are impulses which have been present since i can remember. but i was not clear which ones to follow. how to become clear which ones are best?
henny_v_i: Ramya, for me it is all of the above: the inspiration I feel to cultivate love and peace I see standing before me in the lovely form of Shree Maa.
Debi GLSDM: something we have always wanted from childhood
Debi GLSDM: something we are drawn too
vish108weshwar: i feels same debi
srini_sadhu: Sometimes we find our Dharma from our experiences
BharatiMa: i have been striving for perfect action since very little girl
srini_sadhu: Sometimes by hanging out with an inspiring person
Ramya: So great Debi and Henny - i think we have a "feeling" and then we look for an "example" - we want God and we see someone who is with God - They help make our "ideal" more real!
srini_sadhu: Sometimes by reading the scriptures, the word of God
BharatiMa: Maa says "cultivate spiritual friends"
vish108weshwar: i am trying to help my 17 year old son find his dharma
henny_v_i: yes, that's it (for me, that is)
Debi GLSDM: but i think deep down these are feeling that we have always had & it takes them to see it
henny_v_i: yes, debi, it is a kind of recognition, I think
vish108weshwar: when we are with Shree Maa, She always blesses us by asking God to give us pure devotion
Debi GLSDM: What is he best at. Deepak says find what you love doing and turn it into service for others and you will be rich in all ways
BharatiMa: by being with other seekers we will find it sooner i would think
vish108weshwar: that is so true
Debi GLSDM: yea
Ramya: My learning from Swamiji's teachings is that to make these Feelings a reality in our life -- We need to make concrete goals - written out - and live our lives with discrimination to reach them.
srini_sadhu: Before we move to Sutra # 6, any final words?
Cynkay Morningsong: f: instead of striving for perfect actions why not perfect our actions?
Debi GLSDM: hmm
BharatiMa: what?
srini_sadhu: Thank you Francesca, baby steps - I like it
vish108weshwar: in the Gita, Krishna says: become established in being, then perform action
Debi GLSDM: perfecting what we do
srini_sadhu: Sutra # 6
Debi GLSDM: oooo like that 108
srini_sadhu: Jivasaubhagyam prakasanam
Debi GLSDM: cant do until we know
vish108weshwar: the more we are harmony with God, the more our actions will automatically be harmonious
srini_sadhu: Sau means excellent
srini_sadhu: Bhagyam means fortune or wealth
srini_sadhu: Jiva is life
srini_sadhu: Prakasanam is illumination
Ramya: The sutra says -- The highest wealth of individual existence is intuitive illumination.
srini_sadhu: Kashyapa Muni gives us a goal to strive for
srini_sadhu: Not a path, but the definition of a goal
srini_sadhu: Two topics here
srini_sadhu: One, how do we perceive things?
srini_sadhu: Two, What are different forms of Samadhi.
srini_sadhu: Are there things that any one would like to discuss as we go on?
srini_sadhu:
kaliananda_saraswati: nothing at this point
srini_sadhu: Ok!
srini_sadhu: Swamiji says
srini_sadhu: There are three ways of perceiving
Tara Boyce: when you say not a path but a goal, does that mean we create the path?
srini_sadhu: Through the senses, through the mind, by intuition
srini_sadhu: Or the Guru shows the path, Tara
Tara Boyce: thank you
Ramya: • Pratyaksha: Contact between senses and sense objects: takes place in the gross body
srini_sadhu: I see, I hear, I touch, I smell, I taste
Debi GLSDM: Native Americans have a thing they do where you put something in center of circle of people and all see it diff/ from their sight their dif interpretations of and life exp. we all see dif we all perceive according to our experience thus all see dif.
srini_sadhu: That's interesting Debi!
Ramya: • Prakasha: Emotion, Feeling, Intuition: takes place in the causal body. Go beyond the mind into intuitive experience.
Debi GLSDM: then when you through an emotion in center it gets even harder to agree
srini_sadhu: Pratyaya: Conception in the mind without using any of the sense organs: takes place in the subtle body
srini_sadhu: Pratyaksha (senses), Pratyaya (mind), Prakasha (intuition)
srini_sadhu: As we go through the day, which of these forms of perception dominate?
Ramya: Thanks Debi - it is very interesting!
BharatiMa: debi-that goes back to our original discussion about judging others actions
Ramya: For me its mostly senses and mind
BharatiMa: sri-i use all 3
Debi GLSDM: Intuition is something that has to be worked with for me. we all have feelings ( intuition) about things but not clear sometimes if its our thought( worries) true intuition telling me something.\
Cynkay Morningsong: Srini - I think that depends on whether we are acting on impulse or stopping to consider our options before acting
henny_v_i: yes, mind is certainly busy constantly
BharatiMa: deb-good question
srini_sadhu: Swamiji says all three are in operation at the same time
Debi GLSDM: agree
srini_sadhu: We look at a flower with our senses, note that its is a flower with our find and feel its beauty with intuition
BharatiMa: how do we distinguish between worries/mind and intuition?
Cynkay Morningsong: f: for me it is the mind consistently being placed in spaces and situations in the corporate world where dark energy seems to exist. However, I go back to my office and bow before Maa and know life is good right where I stand.
vish108weshwar: i work with subtle perceptions many times. For example, how did someone react to my question? Am I being clear? Was I too harsh?
Debi GLSDM: me too
Cynkay Morningsong: ditto
Ramya: We can ask Swamiji Debi's question -- are all feelings intuition? When do we know what is a "true" intuition? is that ok, Debi?
srini_sadhu: While all three are operating at the same time, we want to move a state where only intuition is working. That is the goal according to Kashyapa Muni
Debi GLSDM: sure
srini_sadhu: Become absorbed in the feeling
Debi GLSDM: good goal
srini_sadhu: I was reading something interesting recently
srini_sadhu: We have thoughts and we have feelings
srini_sadhu: thoughts are dry and shallow and transient
BharatiMa: sri-if they are all at the same time do we need to distinguish between them?
srini_sadhu: feelings are rich, deep and strong and enduring
srini_sadhu: In meditation, we want to feelings to be prominent and not thoughts
srini_sadhu: To make that happen, we have to cultivate feeling for our beloved through out the day
vish108weshwar: don't we want to "go beyond" all impulses?
Ramya: Our goal is to make our mind still and be absorbed in prakasha (illumination).
srini_sadhu: Bharati-Ma - that's good question,
vish108weshwar: remember the story of how to dye a white cloth permanently and make it color fast?
BharatiMa: ram-so intuition and illumination are the same?
Debi GLSDM: so would you as that being intuit at all times is equal to being in God at all times connected hot line
Ramya: Prakasha means "light" or "illumination" - and Swamiji says it takes place in the causal body. That emotion, feeling, intuition.
BharatiMa: Debi-you clarified my statement thanks
vish108weshwar: Shree Maa always says and does the perfect things
srini_sadhu: When you have strong emotion or feeling towards an object, it is easy to pay attention and from that we get illumination
Debi GLSDM: oh i see what you’re saying
vish108weshwar: so, if I love Maa, and pay total attention to Her, I will become illumined?
srini_sadhu: You will understand Her more and from that understanding comes illumination. My two cents
BharatiMa: rem-so how do we start living in intuition more?
Debi GLSDM: yes how
srini_sadhu: How???
vish108weshwar: To me, since She is beyond understanding, beyond the mind, automatically I will be carried to illumination. my 2 cents
Ramya: Swamiji says we can come to this state of absorption through karma, bhakthi, jnana and dhyana.
Debi GLSDM: keeping a journal of experiences with intuition may make it become clearing when able to look back at notes
Ramya: karma (action), bhakti (devotion), jnana (knowledge), dhyana (concentration)
srini_sadhu: Choose something to love and think about your beloved throughout the day, would be one way
Debi GLSDM: meditation seems a good road to these
srini_sadhu: Take your Beloved with you to your work place, in your car, and on your vacation
Ramya: Offer your actions to your beloved deity or Guru.
kaliananda_saraswati: I tend to agree with you Vish. You loose your mind to Her.
srini_sadhu: Now, I love 100 things and so there is no intensity of feeling towards any one of them
srini_sadhu: Does that make sense?
vish108weshwar: please explain
srini_sadhu: I like my car, my dress, my stereo, my food, and God
srini_sadhu: What if I just loved God
Debi GLSDM: But your love for Guru would be strongest and good focal point
Debi GLSDM: in comparison to 100 things
vish108weshwar: i agree, use discrimination and focus only on those things which will take you to illumination
Ramya: We need to find actions what take us to absorption and actions that don't -- for example, working in silence helps me to be more "meditative" all day long.
henny_v_i: He would give you your car, your dress, your food and all the other things, I think, Srini
srini_sadhu: Maa says, it is OK to desire a car, so long as you can make God the driver
Ramya: Maybe we can each find some actions/activity that would help us be more in the "intuitive" state this week and work on it? What do you think?
vish108weshwar: Swami says that by performing spiritual discipline, the things which are not for your best and highest, simply drop off. They come knocking at your door, but no one is home to answer
srini_sadhu: Find out for ourselves what do we love to do, have feeling for
BharatiMa: when i am cooking i am meditative. i chant mantras and cook and am in bliss
vish108weshwar: i love bharati's great food, but i am getting overweight
kaliananda_saraswati: I tend to agree with you Vish
and when you cook in bliss the meal is so sweet Bharatimaa
srini_sadhu: We are running out of time Guys. This has been Great!
BharatiMa: i want to find other actions where this is so
Cynkay Morningsong: what works for me is to love everything, that way I keep from getting attached to the specific things
BharatiMa: i will look for more this week
vish108weshwar: pray to Maa for guidance
srini_sadhu: nice Morningsong!
Ramya: Morningsong - Thanks, that is the best way to go.
srini_sadhu: So question for us all us to think about: how can we feel more love for what we do
Cynkay Morningsong:
vish108weshwar: there is a story, a saint saw a dead dog and said, what nice white teeth it has
Tara Boyce: Feel the love and grace as much of the time as possible
BharatiMa: last week we talked about doing mantras for each of our actions
Ramya: Maybe we can make a list of activities where we feel meditative (e.g. cooking for Bharati) and add to this list this week - and share techniques that help us add to this list with each other!
henny_v_i: yes, I love that story, Vish
BharatiMa: i haven't done that yet but will work on it this week
srini_sadhu: Vish you can post that on the club?
vish108weshwar: we must share our love and help each other thru the week on the daily club. it really helps me
Debi GLSDM: yes
BharatiMa: yes i have been remiss
srini_sadhu: OK-dokey
vish108weshwar: yes
BharatiMa: thank you everyone. Jai Maa Namaste
vish108weshwar: Jai Srini, Jai ramya
Tara Boyce: Jai Maa!!!
kaliananda_saraswati: Jai maa sweet ones. Great class as usual.
Cynkay Morningsong: Jai Maa
vish108weshwar: you all are the best family
Debi GLSDM: Jai Maa
Ramya: Om Sang Saraswatyai Namaha!
vish108weshwar: thanks for sharing
srini_sadhu: Adieu, Adieu, To you and you and you!
vish108weshwar: so long, farewell
henny_v_i: thank you all for the inspiration, Jai Maa! Thanks Srini and Ramya. Auf wiedersehen, goodbye
vish108weshwar: i hate to leave
Debi GLSDM: me too
srini_sadhu: Only love Vish
Debi GLSDM: love
vish108weshwar: only love
srini_sadhu:
vish108weshwar: all you need is love
srini_sadhu: and breakfast
Debi GLSDM: yea
vish108weshwar: enjoy some sweets
Debi GLSDM: mm
vish108weshwar: She loves you, yea yea yea
srini_sadhu: take care, jai Maa!
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